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Welcome to the Mac 3D Team. It's your support that will make the effort to build 3D on the Macintosh a success.

Nick Pavlovic



In the Commentary, you will find information regarding:

Getting Apple Support

A Word From The "Woz"

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Bringing 3Djoy To The Macintosh

Even though VIDI has closed and Presenter 3D, our professional 3D modeling, render, and animation product, is discontinued, the former VIDI programmers and I intend to see that this technology becomes available to the Macintosh community. This technology will be reincarnated in the form of the new 3Djoy product and will be available for download to the Mac 3D Team from this website and on a CD. This product will have the same professional 3D capabilities as its predecessor

The Mac 3D Team, composed of 3D novices, students, advanced amateurs, professionals, and educators, is the key to making the effort to build 3D on the Macintosh a success.

IMPROVING THE MAC 3D TEAM WEBSITE
After receiving several suggestions regarding improving the banners displayed on the website, two contests were formed to find replacement banners. The first contest produced the Mac 3D Team banner to be downloaded and posted on other sites. The second contest produced the banner by Patrice Depre at the top of this page and the main page banner by Kfir Weizman.


Let us know if you have an idea for improving look and utility of the website. Email
Join3DTeam@aol.com if you there is something you would like to do to help. As an example, one supporter offered to create Java extensions for the website.


GETTING SUPPORT FROM APPLE

Many have contacted Apple to request support for the effort to build the use of 3D on the Macintosh. With their interest in multimedia, education, and game design, it seems to make sense that Apple would find it in their interest to support this effort. Here is the situation to-date:


A note from Dennis Holloway:

To: apple@applemarketing.com
cc: iceo@apple.com (Steve Jobs)
Subject: VIDI Presenter Pro Mac 3d Closing?!!!!!!!

Dear Apple Marketing,

As a professional architect I have been using Macs to do ALL of my work from writing, 2D CAD (ClarisCAD, now MiniCAD) and most important of all to me--3D ray traced architectural modeling with Renderman shaders. The 3D software I use is called VIDI Presenter 3D.

VIDI Presenter 3D is truly a brilliant Macintosh software, which allows me to get PIXAR quality set renderings and animations that have consistently resulted in my getting the project I am pursuing. Please see my web site to see what I do with my Power Mac G3 and VIDI Presenter 3D software:
http://www.taosnet.com/architectVRe/

Now it turns out, due to lack of Apple support that VIDI is closing. Please see the news release on this on today's Mac Central:
http://www.maccentral.com/news/9812/04.vidi.shtml
and:
http://www.vidi.com/newsletter00.html

I am writing to you to request that Apple Marketing and CEO, Steve Jobs, reverse ANY decision not to support further Mac 3D support for VIDI, and to help this struggling company go on to make our Macs the BEST THAT THEY CAN BE!!!!

Sincerely,
(from a Mac Fanatic!!!)

Dennis R. Holloway, Architect

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My Comments:

Dennis is a great 3D modeler and has done great things with our software in representing ancient Indian habitats, as his website demonstrates. While I do not blame Apple for not supporting VIDI directly, I do believe that they should have done more for 3D on the Mac and can do so now supporting the OpenGL standard, releasing RenderMan with their next OS and bundling our free software as many have suggested.


Here is the extent of Apple's response to Dennis and others:

Nick,


On your web page you list a few email addresses for people interested in passing on their feedback about Presenter and 3D on the mac.

I'd like to ask you to remove the Apple email addresses from your site. We are always interested in feedback on Mac OS and Apple hardware, however emails sent directly to Steve Jobs' account or the Apple marketing accounts are not an effective way to provide that feedback.

Quite frankly, the best way to provide that feedback is through your web page itself. It's a single source of information on a single subject, well organized and easily accessible. For example, I went to your web site when you first made your decision, since it was reported at other link sites. I was able to understand the issues, and able to forward one link to others I thought may be interested. Emails don't have the same impact, particularly when they're aimed at addresses that already handle a very high volume.

Thanks for your cooperation,

C.K. Haun
Director
Worldwide Developer Technical Support


I responded to C.K. Haun saying that I agreed to remove the email addresses for Steve Jobs and Apple Marketing with the understanding that Apple would get back to us regarding supporting 3D on the Macintosh. There still is no word from Apple on supporting 3D on the Macintosh, but there is a welcome response from Apple founder Steve Wozniak shown below. Some have suggested that we resume the email effort tp persuade Apple. Let me know what do you think?

A WORD FROM THE "WOZ"
Subject: Apple response to Presenter 3D
From: "Steve Wozniak" <steve@woz.org>
To: vidinick@aol.com

I only just heard today of your 3D gift.

I sometimes hear of companies that get lots of "Mac please" emails and respond positively, saying that they will give a Mac version consideration at least. I'm sorry to hear that Apple's response to Presenter 3D and Mac 3D is so 'vacant' and negative. It seems that they should have thanked you for past support and current feedback, and acted as a good friend would.

Steve
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Steve Wozniak
steve@woz.org http://woz.org
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A family of five should have five votes.
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Steve's response is much appreciated and yet it signals that it's best not to count on Apple even if it is in their benefit to support this effort.

COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS

I am greatly encouraged by the number of educational and first time users who are planning to take advantage of the availability of Presenter 3D and the number of professionals who have been doing 3D solely on Windows and welcome a Mac solution. This is exactly the groups that I am trying to reach with the 3D on the Macintosh campaign. I have also noticed an increase in the number of people who have heard of the offer by word of mouth. One of the main things you can do to help is to spread the word to media, user groups, schools and others and also let us know what you think.

Here are examples of comments I received and my responses:

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JUST TALK IT UP, FOLKS, WE MUST KEEP UP THE NOISE LEVEL ON THIS ISSUE. - Mike Klausmeier

Until Apple decides to make a 3D push, it is up to the Macintosh community to make the move. - Nick

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Presenter 3D is an awesome program. Thank you very much! - Patrick Tappe

Thank you - Nick

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I think the recent announcements regarding the deal with Conix and the release of OpenGL4Java for the Mac will start to help. - Rick Roy - QED Technologies

This along with the upcoming G4 and MacOS X will help. Merging RenderMan into this would do even more. We will be releasing source code and documentation for render plug-in development that I would like to see someone use it to create an OpenGL plug-in. - Nick

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What you are doing now is exciting. If this program is a professional modeling system, giving it for free is a real "eye-catcher". Maybe there is a future for your company in different plug-ins, textures, and models, such as many others have done. I for one would buy them if they integrated into this system to produce results as good as, or better than TV or movie graphics!!! - Walt Barrows - Flights of Fantasy SpaceArt Studios

We are releasing documentation and source code for creating effects plug-ins that programmers and programming departments in schools can take advantage of. - Nick

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I will spread the word. - James Naish - RCA

I have E-MAILED all my Mac friends. - E.K.Iball

I'll advise my professor and peers at school to try out this product. - Rene Gamez

I will post news of this on my web site, and on my company page. - Jim Schuyler - ReelTyme inc.

Thanks for your support. I hope others will do likewise. - Nick

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It is refreshing to see a company willing to go to such lengths to prove a point. Now that Apple has sold out to the capitalists, I fear that this may be too late. - Adam Andrus - Evolve Singularity Productions

I don't believe it's too late. With the expense and difficulty of use of 3D on other platforms, we still have a great opportunity if we work together to spread the word. - Nick

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